I often reinterpret my drawing into 3d models. Originally I wanted to make completely transparent objects, and just like my other work, the models developed throughout the process, details were added and subtracted and I added light in the final stage. I think of these models again as articulations of space. Basically, it is our space – in all directions, as well as in time that it takes to see all these relationships. Non-objective form for me is form that is not derived from visual realty. It is form that is artificial in that sense. It is form that represents itself. I think of my non-objective non-referential space as moving and expanding. It oscillates between 2d and 3d. Basically, it is our space – in all directions, as well as in time that it takes to see all these relationships.